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# Phoenix, Arizona (and More!)
- URL: https://www.bramadams.dev/202302041109/
- Published: 2023-02-04T16:10:34.000Z
- Updated: 2023-02-04T16:10:44.000Z
- Author: Bram Adams
- Tags: geography, game-theory

> it's really fucked up that Phoenix is the fifth largest city in the US
> 
> — Jared 🗿🌱 🇰🇵 (@b1g\_damage) [November 7, 2022](https://twitter.com/b1g%5Fdamage/status/1589449154509803520?ref%5Fsrc=twsrc%5Etfw&ref=bramadams.dev)

Intuitively, I'd think that all the top 5 most populous cities would be the ones that come up most in conversation. [The actual top 5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List%5Fof%5FUnited%5FStates%5Fcities%5Fby%5Fpopulation?ref=bramadams.dev):

1. NYC
2. LA
3. Chicago
4. Houston
5. Phoenix

Cities I hear people mention a lot:

1. NYC (1 in population)
2. LA (2 in population)
3. SF (17 in population)
4. Miami (44 in population)
5. Boston (24 in population)
6. Seattle (18 in population)

## Deltas

Fastest Growing (big cities[\[1\]](#fn1)):

1. Fort Worth, TX
2. San Antonio, TX
3. Phoenix
4. Oklahoma City
5. Las Vegas

Fastest Shrinking (big cities):

1. SF + Bay Area
2. NYC
3. Boulder, CO
4. Boston
5. San Jose

Interesting that people are leaving the North to move South. I think that may be due to the fact that baby boomers are retiring and want more amenable tax brackets + sunny weather. Also, when a certain percent of friends or family move to an area, it becomes more costly to **not** follow them.

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smaller pop = greater delta so I'm skipping those [↩︎](#fnref1)